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Is Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.20 08:05:25 -
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I've played Eve for a few days spending all my time on Exploration. My current setup is Heron which with all the modules and rigs I use costs about 1 Mil ISK. I've been to Hi and Mid sec and mostly Wormhole space, made about 100 Mil ISK including a single 30 Mil hit on a relic site in -1.0.
Even the worst site brings in a few Mil ISK so I can easily afford losing this ship now and then, although using all the advise I found and being careful I lost only 1 ship so far.
Now looking at how people do Exploration on T2 ship with cloaks and all, it seems that at that level your setup costs 200+ Mil ISK and I'm not sure if exploration rewards scale up that much. Are there any rewards that are worth running x200 more expensive ship than the one I have?
I can't hack guarded sites and I don't go into null sec but otherwise it seems that I already have a fair access to the rest of it, about 80% of my hacks are successful with my few days of skill training so I still have a lot of room for improvement at this level.
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Is Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2016.03.20 10:13:07 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Exploration scales in speed, success rate and safety with the skills, expierience, and to a certain degree with the ship/equipment, but the cap to equipment for non-combat exploration is IMO somewhere in the 30-50m range for a covops frig or explo ceptor assuming near perfect skills. More expensive equipment won't increase the KPIs above much further to justify the price tag. The story is different for combat related exploration.
Even with that, can you be 50 times more effective than me, flying 50m ship?
And I guess the simplest way to measure effectiveness is by the value of loot.
At least for the sake of being self sustainable and be able to afford losses easily. |
Is Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.20 13:54:00 -
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J'Poll wrote: ...Does it justify something 'x' times more expensive then your current ship?
That is up to you. It could be, it couldn't be...
I should've probably asked a more direct question - can you make 30 times more ISK flying around on a ship 30 times more expensive than the most primitive one? I guess the answer is No.
Am I missing any significant part of exploration (in loot terms) flying on T1 vs T2 mostly in wormhole space? I guess the answer is also No.
That's what I meant by "scalable" exploration, I'm not really asking about any other aspect of exploration here like how much fun it is to fly a covOpt ship etc. |
Is Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.20 14:08:49 -
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Ideally, I'd like someone to say, from their personal experience, that T2, say, is 4 times more profitable than T1.
... or it's the same profit but I'm having 30 times more fun with it bla bla..
So I could make a decision when and if I switch to T2, considering it's 30 times more expensive per ship setup. |
Is Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.03.20 17:40:13 -
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That's very helpful, thank you!
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Is Shi
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.03.24 12:34:24 -
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Lord Harrowmont wrote:
I highly recommend exploration as a means to build capital.
For new players such as ourselves, I have found it most viable. Even with a small investment one can easily return with up to 300 million per day, if not more.
I currently use the Magnate with an investment of circa 2 million in modules, and do not plan on upgrading it as it seems to do all that is required. I have explored numerouse Worhomes going all the way to C6 and managed fine.
Wishing you the best of luck.
I did exploration for a week and I barely got 150 mil out of it in WH space, 300 mil "easily" per day sounds like impossible number to me.
Most of data/relic sites in WH are guarded so you can't hack them, those you can hack bring 7-20 mil and finding them takes hours. I did find 40mil can but it happened only once.
Maybe you have all skills up to V including fighting skills and you also have a ship to kill rats? |
Is Shi
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.03.24 19:43:27 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:The high numbers come from relic site runs in nullsec, preferred Sansha space like Stain, Providence, Catch or Esoteria because of the intact armor plates as loot. In wormhole space you may find pirate sites, but every faction not only the "right" ones, and a lot of other (for you in this situation) useless stuff. BTW, 150m for a one week char is pretty good. 
As I understood he's running Magnate in WH space for easy 300 mil a day that's why I was surprised by numbers. |
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